https://screenrant.com/dc-extended-universe-officially-branded-worlds-dc/
My thoughts are going straight into how the continuity of the DCEU is going to be on here and everywhere else.
Hughes is usually insightful, but his idea towards what he thinks WB should and is going to do is misguided. He never addresses the fact that there are people watching this, both fans and a general audience and his ideas just serve to alientate both. SS2 struck a nerve with audiences, while it wasn't a critical darling, it did have ridiculous legs in the box office and WB isn't going to pass up on that. There does need to be some higher up shake up. They have a year until the next film comes out to make sure things get sorted out, because as of the recent years, they had a plan, and when that plan started to crumble, WB, not DC, panicked (JL supposed to be 2 parts filming back to back, Flash coming out last year, each BVS, SS, and JL being trimmed down). They had a plan with no contigencies. They need to sit down and map out the universe and make sure that what is being put out is solid and for god's sake, WB, STOP TRIMMING DOWN THE MOVIES TO FIT IN MORE SHOWTIMES! YOU DID THIS THREE TIMES, EACH TIME WORSE THAN THE LAST AND THE ONLY ONE YOU DIDN'T DO IT TO WAS WONDER WOMAN AND WE SAW HOW THAT WENT!
Mark's assertion of WB moving through with their plans being "not accepting reality" i don't think is necessarily true, however, if they trim the next movie, yes, they are refusing to see that this isn't working.
I remember seeing this on the tvtropes page. In reality, a straight reboot is an awful idea. Everyone now just seems to have this idea that a reboot will automatically sweep away all the problems (it won't). No one wants to climb out of hole anymore, they just want the hole gone and because of it, they never learn how to ever get out of it. Everyone uses hyperboly now and assumes there's no possible or logical solution when there are several (they just aren't exciting). Recasting Ben for example. The most successful recasts have always been ones that just don't have a story related reason and just recasted (Hulk, War Machine, Dumbledore)
Flashpoint isn't what everyone seems to think it is. Days of Future Past is a story of trying to change the past to change the future, Flashpoint is the result of the above type of story with a sloppy two page spread retcon slapped at the very end. It's a story about trying to "restore" the status quo, not change it. I always find it funny that the General Audience is always ready to implement ideas from the comics that DID NOT WORK (New 52, DCYOU).
Realistically, nothing immediate is going to happen to the DCEU. Aquaman is already in post production, WW2 is ready to go and WB is NOT gonna just pull the plug on that, and despite the lackluster box office and critical response, the universal takeaway so far from General Audiences is that they like these characters and how the bounce off each other and are excited for the future (some people who hated MOS are ready for MOS2 after they saw JL) But it's like if they killed Star Wars after the prequel trilogy came out.
Three things... 1. Don't believe everything you hear son. 2. The author of this article also believes that JL is going under extensive reshoots, which has been debunked. 3. The author couches the whole Ben Affleck leaving as a "graceful exit" that WB is planning for but also says there's a greater chance that Ben isn't in The Batman. It's not exactly a "graceful exit" if they shoehorn in his death or retirement into JL. In addition the author of this article made some pretty low comments about Ben's issues with alcoholism, saying that "his body hasn't been temple" and saying that "His health issues are well known" and acting like those are reasons for him possibly leaving. Those don't seem like actual things WB and Ben are concerned about but things the author herself thinks. This article just seems to be more speculative to me. We also have Matt Reeves saying Ben will be Batman for The Batman.
I've had talks about this with other users, but the walls of text on certain pages is absurd. A lot of this is due to information that isn't exactly relevant or details that aren't exactly needed, some pages could be cut in half. Some conflicts have more detail on the character pages than they do on the actual conflict page. Talking to people who don't actually contribute, but read the wiki, I've heard from several people that the large walls of text are incredibly unappealing. A lot of these pages seem unfocused and I think should be written to focus more on the object or character at hand. Or at least re-written.
Feel wiki pages should be a quick summary, otherwise you might as well just watch the movie.
Hal Jordan of course... but, hmmm, Let's get The Atom, Zatanna (I know she's JLD, but hey, it'd be cool), Green Arrow, and Canary.
Could be used to better explain the backstory of Black Adam and the Wizard, allows Shazam to start with not as much exposition. And Black Adam, going from Anti-Hero to more villain is an interesting story.
So I hope this means the introductions of the DCEU Catwoman and Poison Ivy.
No, I am not
Ayer also sent out this: https://twitter.com/davidayermovies/status/808859034463764484
I'm cautiously optimistic about this film. While I enjoyed Suicide Squad, it is definitely the most flawed of the DCEU films so far.
So I hope this means the introductions of the DCEU Catwoman and Poison Ivy.
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Hank412 wrote:
A character who's only trait is that he doesn't kill is a boring as hell character.
Know more than you apparently. Batman is a character that's interesting because of his moral dilhemas, which batfleck is completely in tune with. If you think that the ONLY thing that really defines Batman is his no kill rule, then I'm sorry, but you know jack about these characters.
What you just said means I know more about these characters than you do. I know there's more to Batman's character than just his no killing rule.
So you've just disregarded what I've said prior and unintentionally proved me right. Good going.
Hank412 wrote:
A character who's only trait is that he doesn't kill is a boring as hell character.
Know more than you apparently. Batman is a character that's interesting because of his moral dilhemas, which batfleck is completely in tune with. If you think that the ONLY thing that really defines Batman is his no kill rule, then I'm sorry, but you know jack about these characters.
Oh yeah...That's totally everything Batman is. EVERYTHING! Forget the childhood trauma, the idea that humans can rival gods, that one man can make a difference, NO! IT ALL ABOUT DEM NO KILLIN RULE!
A character who's only trait is that he doesn't kill is a boring as hell character.